When You Go All In, Everything Changes | The Fire That Turns Vision into Legacy

In this powerful compilation of The Burn Podcast, Ben Newman brings together two extraordinary stories that prove your past does not define your future—your commitment does. First, Brandon James, owner of Brandon J Roofing, shares his raw and inspiring journey from serving time in prison to becoming a multi-millionaire business owner, coach, and motivational leader. Brandon opens up about the faith, discipline, and sheer will it took to rebuild his life, and why his leadership goes far beyond sales numbers. For Brandon, success is about changing lives—starting with his team—by helping them provide for their families, elevate their standards, and believe in what’s possible when you fully commit to growth.

Then, Bo Eason, former NFL player turned speaker, performer, and author, takes us inside the power of vision and obsession with excellence. Bo shares how a dream written in crayon at nine years old became the blueprint for his NFL career, and why loyalty to your vision is non-negotiable. From competing against his childhood hero in the NFL to teaching the principles behind There’s No Plan B for Your A-Game, Bo challenges listeners to stop hedging their bets and go all-in on their calling. Together, these conversations embody the heart of The Burn—when belief meets discipline, redemption meets vision, and commitment leaves no room for excuses.


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Chapters

• 0:00 From Brokenness To Turning Point
• 2:56 The Bench, The EMT, And Surrender
• 6:30 From Victimhood To Accountability
• 9:28 Sponsor: Q-Logics And Business Clarity
• 11:50 Fueling Discipline With Pain And Gratitude
• 16:20 Stewardship, Service, And Legacy
• 19:20 Spiritual Foundation And True Strength
• 22:47 Bo Eason: Vision At Age Nine
• 27:30 Holding The Dream Without Evidence
• 31:20 Tackling Walter Payton: Vision Realized

Transcript

unknown: 0:00

I'm a gut boy like a don't battle. I'm a gut boy like a don't cut. I'm a gut boy like a don't cut.

SPEAKER_02: 0:12

Help us understand. I know we share the belief that your challenge in adversity is where you build your greatest strength. Tell us a little bit about how challenge and adversity is shaped to you are.

SPEAKER_00: 0:23

Oh man. That was uh uh it's everything. You know, and for the longest time, I don't man, I I grew up kind of messed up, you know, things broken home, all of that type of stuff. It was just like right away the challenge in adversity, like just was there, you know. Um and I I don't know. Like I I went through this whole entire uh first half of my life, just like it looked like I was like sabotaging my own life, you know, and just making every wrong decision I possibly could and and really working towards the wrong direction. I was just I was lost and broken. And you know, it was uh the as far as challenge and adversity, that was my entire life, you know, and I had worked my way like to I I I caused so much pain on myself. That's one of the things I say to myself, there there is nothing this world could bring down on you that you haven't done yourself. I cause so much pain to myself that I just remind myself of that. There's nothing this world could throw at me that I can't step into.

SPEAKER_02: 1:34

What is the most significant uh pain or challenge when you think back to it that's really defined who you are?

SPEAKER_00: 1:47

When I came home from prison, um I I the first four weeks were an absolute shit show. I went right back to the bullshit, fell flat on my face, and and just ended up so hopeless. And I remember sitting on this bench and in more pain than I've ever been in my life, and more broken than I've ever been in my life. I sat on this bench and it was like the whole world came crumbling down on me. And it's this was about six weeks after released from prison, and as I sat on this bench, I was more imprisoned that day from the bondage of self than the state could ever put me in. And so when somebody says, Well, Brandon, you know, I haven't been in prison or anything. It was bad, but I haven't been in prison, it's like that was just a place. It doesn't it's that was just a place. You know, so that that same place that could could be different for you. You didn't have to be an actual physical prison, is my point. But when I sat on that bench that day, um, man, that was it. That was I was a hundred I I'd failed at everything. I can't even do the wrong thing the right way anymore. And and I was I just failed everywhere, I let everybody down, and I was just so done. I was so done. I was done hurting people, I was done hurting myself. And like that was the day. That was the day I was done. And and and I was a hundred percent convinced this world would be way better off without me. And you know, I ended up trying to go take my own life shortly after that. And when I got brought back in the back of uh the paramedics van, the very first word the EMT said, the very first words the EMT said to me was, Brandon, I'm supposed to tell you God's not done with you, he's got a plan for you. And I hear those words every day. But that was like that was the moment. That was I I feel like that day the old me died. I feel like the old me died, and not to say that, oh, it just, you know, I got brought back and all of my demons were gone and my character defects were good, like not to say that, but it just wasn't an option anymore. And it and that's at that point is really when I started looking at life as a true gift. But you know, putting my like that was it. That and maybe it was like all the pain coming to a head right then of all the life experience. You know, but I really had to at that point in time, you know, for the longest time, I I would share my story in a from a victim, a victimhood stance. And so by the time I get done sharing my story, you'd say, damn, Brandon, that's I I'm sorry you went through that. I'm sure if I went through that, I'd be in the same boat as you were, as you are. You know, and I would just live in this victimhood. And and somebody said to me, and it just stuck. You cannot be a victim and a victor at the same time. And so I had to r reframe how I was looking and really take accountability on everything. And what's my side of the street, what's in my control, you know, and really focus on those things. But that that was the moment. Like that was the moment I was really and not just moment, but that was the season that I really learned to start looking at myself. I really start like learned to start taking accountability and like realizing this is all on me. No one's coming to save me. You know, and this is what this is what you're working with, so this is what you got. So you're either gonna face this shit and do something about it, or you're gonna die.

SPEAKER_02: 5:28

This episode of The Burn is brought to you by our dear friends and partners at Q Logics. Now, you know I don't co-sign things I don't believe in, and I believe in John Chiarando and the team at Q Logics. He's built multiple nine-figure businesses, real integrity, real character, the kind of guy you want in your corner. But here's what happened: all that expertise, all that knowledge, it was just his. Locked in his head, his decisions, his team, you couldn't access it. So John created Q-Logics. He basically said, How do I make everything I've built available to people who actually need it? Here's what that looks like. Q-Logics helps you see the blind spots in your business, the gaps you don't even know you have. You don't know what you don't know. They're your tour guide through that. Q-Logics helps you build systems that make your business work better, or they ask better questions to your approaching it in the most effective way. And Q Logics has access to a network of businesses and resources, real connections, real synergies that can accelerate what you're building. If any of that resonates, go to Qyphen Logics, L-O-G-I-X.com forward slash Ben. Fill out a form, their team will research your situation personally, then they'll tell you straight, can they actually help? Thank you to our friends and partners at Q Logics. Make sure you find out more about Q Logics and your opportunity to win more with them today. You know, when I hear you say those words that the paramedics said to you that you hear now every single day, I think that that has a burn inside of you that like it, that's that reminder of that gift. I also, in a little bit of a free free plug for your podcast, whatever it takes, when we did your show, when you had me on your show, which was awesome, you talked about how in the mornings you intentionally think back to when you were in prison. And sometimes people struggle, like, what is this burn? I don't have the burn, I didn't have that. And a lot of times it is a mindset where most people run from a mindset where you choose to like I need to see that today, yes, to have a burn to remind me I will never go back there again. So I think that's kind of the work that you do on you, which is so powerful, which has created all this success, which has created you being an example for these individuals that you lead. And, you know, our listeners have heard me say so many times you can only lead somebody to the level of discipline in which you live. You are one disciplined son of a gun. Is that you hear those words every day, but you also are willing to go back to the pain of the mindset to remind yourself there's a burn in me. I ain't going back there. Yes. How important is that? Why is that important?

SPEAKER_00: 8:09

Man, um, you know, it's when I was early on, as I was getting started, I was just so amazed at just everything. I was amazed with God, I was amazed at the results, and and it did not slow me down from the action I was taking every day. And, you know, I started setting these targets and and really be writing these targets out and as okay, who do I need to become to make this happen? And and really, really fine falling in line with that, reading it every single day, doing all these things, and and that would keep me in alignment, that does keep me in alignment 90% of the time. But in my darkest hour, when this just isn't inspiring me, or what whatever the thing is, that I'm riddled with fear, what whatever the thing is, in my darkest hour when I need to be moved, all I have to do is look behind me at where I come from. And and I want to widen that gap every damn day. And it's so it's everything. And you know, with my past, and this is all kind of uh concocts, he created a concoction for me uh to be successful, but with my past, man, it's like really looking at like I'm not supposed to be here, you know. Only by God's mercy and grace am I here. And so, like I said earlier, like I've always looked, I look at the business as a as a as a gift, and I'm I'm not like I'm a steward of it, and I've just kept held on to that mindset um as much as I possibly can. But it's man, where I come from, it's like I don't have a choice. Like if I met God and God just said, Man, I gave you this awesome blessing, but like you didn't, you just took it all for yourself. Like you didn't do like it could have been this if you would have just done this. Like, man, that that's you know, Ed Milette talks about like him meeting, you know, when he comes across those pearly gates and God showing him who he could have been if he would have done these things. Like, that's hell. Are you gonna recognize that person?

SPEAKER_02: 10:17

Right, or will it be your twins? Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 10:19

Recognize them or not have any idea who the hell it is, right? Exactly. And so I I and ever since I heard like I think about that regularly. And it's I don't know, like I say I got a life I don't deserve, but I and I get up and do my part every day and I'm worthy of it. But it's like, man, I I I just have to give it away. Like I have I have to. I I have to be a good steward of it. And when I mean I have to, like I have to do that to be okay inside of me. You know, it's um I want to know I got everything I can out of this. I know I want to know at the end of the time I left no stone unturned. You know, so it just it just it gives me a different perspective coming where I come from um than a lot of people have to fill with gratitude and knowing at the same time I got a debt I can never repay. I have to do this.

SPEAKER_02: 11:08

I love the intentionality of giving and serving, the connection to Burn. I want to leave with a final question. What's Brandon J's legacy gonna be?

SPEAKER_00: 11:20

What is Brandon J's legacy gonna be? You know, I I want I want the legacy to to to be that for me is showing like real really somebody who who got who who like conquered life. And I don't mean like and and by mean what I mean by that is like doing our best and like truly leaving all in the field and and giving and growing and just becoming our best, you know. But in that I personally believe that you know there's nothing more powerful than an environment of a community we will either rise to or fall to. But I want to see how many lives we can impact. Like how many people can we help start stop, how many people can we help stop and get out of surviving mode and really start thriving in life? You know, and there's no dollar amount equated to that. But at the end of the day, I want like when somebody looks at my life and it's like, okay, this is somebody who made a complete mess of their life, made every wrong decision, burned their life completely, come way behind, and hit this point and look where they are at night. Like they they defeated all the odds and look where they're at now. Definitely the person that's not supposed to be in the room, you know, and in doing that, the biggest part of that is God, you know, it is God's favor on my life and his mercy and grace. But I also have to be willing to suit up and show up and do my part. And I also have to be willing to have faith and trust, you know, and and and man, I wanted to add this to you to this. Um having a spiritual foundation, me, it is so paramount to my success. Um there's no way that I could do this shit on my own. And there's no way. I'd be riddled with fear, anxiety, all of the things. I'd break without a shadow of a doubt. And so, like that, having that foundation, but me having that trusted partner, God, that I know, like he's got this. What's in my control? I'm gonna do what's in my control here, God. I know, like you're my father. You know, you're you got this, and but I have to be willing to trust and have faith in that myself. And like, okay, does he really got it? You know, I I and for me, anytime, whatever those issues are, okay, what's in my control? And I'm trusting God. I got I because if I didn't trust God, then I then it's I got all this insane, crazy stuff going on that I have to like worry about myself. Yeah, and so it's just it's just by key, it's just vital for me. Um and I and I honestly think it is with a lot of high-level leaders, if not all. You know, I'm sure there's the exception out there, but it's like we're just human beings. We can only take so much before we break. And and and I know I know at the end of the day, man, uh I know the measure of my strength is truly in my surrender. And so I have to be very intentional about staying surrendered.

SPEAKER_02: 14:41

Yes, what a powerful, powerful, faithful way to finish. Bo Eason, welcome to the burn. Ben, thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_01: 14:53

How does a nine-year-old boy cast a 20-year vision? Yeah, that will I that's actually a crazy story because of the people involved. So in 1969, my dad was watching a game, a football game. And my dad's a cowboy, right? He's a rancher, he doesn't talk very much, he's dirty all the time. Um, and he's he's glued to the TV, and I've never seen him like this before. And he's yelling at the TV, and he says to me and my brother, who are kids, my brother's 10, I'm nine, and he says, This guy, look at this kid run. This kid is beautiful. Now, when you hear your dad speak, you know, at that age, it means something, right? Especially uh a cowboy that doesn't talk very much. So when he says to watch somebody and that this kid is beautiful and watch him run, you you pay attention. So I'm like, well, who I've never heard my dad say anybody was beautiful, let alone a guy running on TV in a football game. So we get we get in front of the TV and we're watching, and guess who that was? That was OJ Simpson. That was O.J. Simpson, man. That that when I tell that to people nowadays, they go, whoa, really? Oh, you know, but this was when he was like, I think he was like a rookie. He may have even been at USC at the time. But my dad was right. I he had never seen a guy run quite like that before. And me and my brother certainly had never seen anybody do that. So I knew that it was important to my dad that movement is emotional when somebody does it really effortlessly and smoothly and really with a tremendous speed. And that's what O.J. Simpson represented. And when he said it, I go, okay. I knew, and here's the the second thing that entered my mind, Ben, was um, that's important to my dad. I can do that, but I don't want to be that kid. I don't want to be OJ Simpson. I want to stop him. That isn't that weird. I'm nine years old, and I didn't think like, oh, I want to be him. I thought, I want to stop runners like that. I want to bring them down. And psychologically, you can go a lot of places with that, right? A therapist can make a living on that one moment, but that's how I took it. And so I drew up a plan with Crayon. I still have the plan. Um in 1969, I drew up the plan of me, it's a picture of me, like a you know, kid's drawing of me tackling, stopping O.J. Simpson. Oh, a beautiful runner, right? So as as this plan grew and went on over the years, I realized that that position that could stop O.J. Simpson was the position of safety. So that's when I said, okay, safety. I'm gonna be the best safety in the whole world, and I'll stop anybody who runs beautifully. I'll stop them all. In fact, I'll run beautifully, and I'll have to be just to catch them and I'll stop them. Well, as this dream and this plan started to take shape over the years, I was getting really kind of no evidence, Ben, like no proof that I was even on the right path. I just stayed on the path. But it it didn't, I wasn't big, I wasn't fast, no one really thought I was special as an athlete. It just didn't turn out that way. Although I held the dream in place of being the best safety. So even though I wasn't getting the feedback that I was taking the right steps, that I was actually becoming this best safety, um, I just stayed true to my the plan. I stayed loyal to that little piece of paper rather than staying loyal to the feedback of the public. And a lot of that public was family friends, uh coaches, colleges for sure. Like no one, not one college recruited me, not one college recruited my brother. Um and then we had I had my best friend, Kenny O'Brien. We all thought we were pretty good football players, but no one wanted us. No one recruited us, not even junior colleges, nobody. No letters, nothing. But we thought we were pretty good, and we won in call in high school, and then we went to small colleges. My brother went to a junior college. I went to UC Davis, which was Division II, no scholarships. Kenny O'Brien was my roommate, he went there with us. And then cut to four years later. Later, those two guys, Kenny O'Brien and my brother, were first round picks in the NFL. Unrecruited. First round picks with uh six quarterbacks went in the 1983 draft, went in the first round, John Lway, Dan Marino, Todd Blackledge, my brother, my roommate Kenny O'Brien. Um did I skip anybody? Can't remember. Uh maybe Dan Marino. L Way. Yeah, I got them all. Six of them went in the first round. Then I'm a year younger than those guys, and I went in the second round the next year, but I was the top safety, you know, taken. So even though all these years had passed and all this training had passed, most of the evidence I was getting right up until the end, Ben, of that dream coming true, was yeah, wasn't good enough. Isn't that weird? Like, I think most people, when they may have a dream or they have a plan, they put it together. If they're not getting enough evidence that that plan, that you're on the right, you're taking the right course, you quit. Because you're just not getting the feet, you're not getting the feedback.

SPEAKER_02: 21:11

Often, oftentimes, you know, people lack what I call the aggressive patience, right? It takes long obedience in the same direction with aggressive patience. And most people don't have a willingness to stay in the fight, to silence the naysayers, to continue to do the work. And that's one of the reasons why I loved your story is, you know, being an undersized guy, going to UC Davis, a school that didn't even offer scholarships, yet you continued to believe no matter what anybody said. You continued to believe, you continued to put action behind your vision. Tell us about the picture that you ended up putting in your locker, because you had the crayon drawing, but then there was a picture that you actually put in your locker, which tells an absolutely extraordinary story.

unknown: 21:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 21:58

Is that are you talking about the Walter Payton?

SPEAKER_02: 22:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 22:01

Yes. So I, you know, everybody loved Walter Payton. This was, you know, now we're into the 70s. Sweetness, that was my favorite.

unknown: 22:08

Really?

SPEAKER_02: 22:09

Oh, the 1985 Bears sweetness. I mean, you know, the the St. Louis Cardinals were already gone. So you're not, you know, we didn't have a football team in St. Louis. I used to root for the Chicago Bears. So I love this story.

SPEAKER_01: 22:21

Oh, yeah. Uh 85 Bears, greatest defense ever assembled, had the fridge and had Walter Payton carrying the ball. And they were so good that on that day, it wasn't our my family's best day because my brother had to play against them in the Super Bowl. My brother was the quarterback for the Patriots against the Bears, which they got beat. And so it wasn't a great day for us, but man, what a team. Anyway, you guys, I put Walter Payton. I always put pictures up in Sports Illustrated. I would cut them out. I would put pictures up on my wall, and I put this one up in my locker. And, you know, you open your locker, you know, in high school, like, I don't know, eight, ten times a day, because in between classes and getting dressed for practice. And it's this specific picture of Walter Payton, and he's running right at the camera. So it looks like the lens must have been right there, and he's running like right toward the camera with the ball. And there's grass coming up behind him that's kicking up from his cleats. It's like one of those pictures that you just love, and I just loved Walter Payton. So I would look at this picture eight, 10 times a day as I opened my locker for four years straight in high school. So four years straight. Then 1985 was the year, the year they won the Super Bowl. We I'm we're playing the Chicago Bears. Now, the guy I've been looking at for all these years in my locker, you know, and loving him, like loving him like an idol, you know. Um, now I'm playing against him. And now I'm playing safety. They give him the ball, and I'm like, oh man, this is it. They just gave Walter Payton, they tossed it to him, he was deep in the eye, they tossed it to him. He's running, and he's running right toward my left, his right, and I'm going, I am going to tackle Walter Payton. And when these moments happen in your life, you guys, it's not fast, it's slow. Like it's it, everything turned to slow motion, and now I'm like running in slow motion in real life in the Astrodome playing the Chicago Bears. And Walter Payton is running at me, slow motion, everything just like a dream, like a slow motion dream. And he's running right at me. And I swear to you, the visual that I have locked in my brain is the one that was in my locker. The same picture that I saw him running at the camera like this. He is like that, and I'm running to tackle him. And I'm like, shit, this is crazy. I'm about to tackle Walter. I'm I'm this is what I'm thinking inside. I'm about to tackle Walter Payton. I hope my mom and dad are watching. That's what I was thinking. And sure enough, I get to him, tackle him, right? Now I'm on top of my hero. I'm laying on top of Walter Payton, right? And I didn't know what to do. I was a rookie, right? And when you when you tackle your idol, right, you don't want to get off, right? You just want to lay there for a minute, just gonna enjoy it, right? But when you're a veteran, when you're the greatest running back, one of the greatest running backs to ever live, you don't want some rookie laying on top of you while your you know back is on a turf, right? So just like you would expect, you know, because Walter Payton, I just, you know, he had that soft voice, he was a nice guy, man of the year. I I started to get off of him because he said he dropped a couple F bombs on me and said, get the get the F off of me, rookie. And I start to get up, and I wasn't getting up quick enough. So he gave me a little heel, like a heel up into my body, like a boom with his foot. And I was like, Oh man, I guess the idolization is over. I guess this is this is the real thing. But often, you guys, it's so funny. I don't know if you guys had this experience in your life, but uh every time I have a visual that I kind of look at day after day, day after day, or year after year, those visuals I then later see in my life. And it feels like a deja vu moment, like man, and it's always slow motion, it's never fast, it's it's always like, wow, I've been here before. And that's that's when I knew that the things that have all come into existence in my life, I had seen them for years uh ahead of that. And then they come true. And I'm like, wow, it's so weird because not only did they come true, but it feels like I've already been here, like this already happened.

SPEAKER_02: 27:21

See, this is so powerful for me, Bo, because I obviously reading it, I loved hearing it. I was a big Walter Payton fan. I can enjoy the reading of the story. But to me, this is almost like the ultimate story of the burn for many individuals who say, Well, I really don't know what my underlying burn is, right? Then you you lose your mom, and you know, you watch your mom's fight, and you want to live and be the best you can be, because you have days your mom never got that's deep. I didn't have that happen to me, or I didn't have to sacrifice, or I'm not there's people they struggle. To me, I I love it's this ultimate burn of vision to where you almost said, I have to keep going, no matter the naysayers, no matter the unpredictable world that we live in, no matter if somebody tells me this, no matter if I have a scholarship or not. And not only did you go on to play in the NFL, I mean, you went on to be an NFL all pro. And so you did it at the highest possible level. And I just I think the story of vision and burn and looking at that picture, which generates this fuel, caused you to make that your reality, which people are like, well, how is that possible? It's possible when you believe it and you put the action and which is why I love the book so much, which I really want you to talk about. When you truly believe, you don't just say it's there's only a plan A. There is no plan B. So back to me selling the book again, right? There is no plan B for your A game. So the plan B was non-existent for you. You said, no, I will play in the NFL, period, end of story. That's it. And I think so many people, and I believe it's probably the same for you, as much consulting and planning and things that you're doing with organizations in the business world now. Oh, it drives me crazy when somebody says, okay, we have a big, hairy, audacious goal. We have a stretch goal. I'm like, what a bunch of bullshit that is. I said, What do you mean you have a stretch goal? I said, How about you just go after the really big goal? And if you don't hit it, we'll deal with it then. And that's why I loved your book so much, because it's almost like people say, Well, that's really exciting. I'll get excited to talk about this big goal, but I really only believe in the smaller one. And so that's why I loved your book. So where did it come from for you, where you're like, don't even talk to me about a B game. It doesn't exist. Go for the A game.

SPEAKER_01: 29:48

Yeah, I, you know, as you as I became a dad and got, you know, as I was getting married and having kids and then, you know, getting more mature, I I keep hearing people say, well, you have to make you get you know, you have to make goals that are achievable. And I'm like, well, that's not even a goal, right? I mean, if it's achievable, just do it. You know, what are you what are you talking about? That's not a goal. Uh, and I've and I I I think that the world Ben has a lot of, I think we as human beings have a lot of false loyalties. Like we're loyal to the wrong things. Um, I was always taught to stay loyal to my dreams and only my dreams. Isn't that weird? Like, you know, because you have these loyalties that you're supposed to be loyal to, but it they might be false. What if you're just loyal to this dream, which is actually a vision? And then you don't wait for the vision to happen before you become that vision. You become that vision on day one. So when I'm nine years old and I'm drawing up the plan, I'm not waiting until 1984 to get drafted to be the best safety in the world. I'm not waiting for ESPN to say that. There wasn't even an ESPN. I was that on day one. So I drew it up. I said, that's me, that's OJ Simpson, I'm the best. And I started behaving as if I was that best safety, and I was scrawny and crappy and untalented. But I was talented at one thing, at being loyal to what I wanted. And so for all those years leading up to 1984, between 69 and 1984, the one thing I had, because you guys, at every turn, people are saying no. I had between those times, you guys, I had three, four knee surgeries. I mean ACL surgeries, where I'm a kid, and doctors are going, dude, you can't play. This is 1984. This is 1977 when I had my first surgery. You're done. You we got to put screws in there. We can't in those days, they just opened you up, they put you in a cast for eight weeks, they said, You're done. It's not like today. And I was so unloyal to what the doctors said to me. When someone's in a white lab coat telling you that your dream is over, usually you you succumb to that white lab coat and their education. And I just I I said, I I I hear you, I I've got this plan. See, and it doesn't matter the surgeries really don't matter, and it doesn't matter that there's no schools interested, and it doesn't matter, none of these things matter. What matters is the dream. And if I stay loyal to this, eventually it will come true.

SPEAKER_02: 32:56

You know, I think we live in a world where there's too many people who are telling themselves a story, and I always love to say that you can tell me how great you want to be, but when we have a conversation with your action, we find out how bad you really want it. And I think that's the beauty of your ability to be such an incredible storyteller, but the storytellers are backed with action to prove that when you believe in that power of attraction, when you put the action behind it, when it's fueled by that burn, that vision, that belief, really anything does become possible. And it's not some trite statement. It's something that can happen as long as you stay in the fight. So I want to encourage you to do exactly what Bo said, which is to write that story, write that vision, but then put yourself in the demanding situation that it's gonna take to cause you to take the action to allow that story, that vision to come true.