The Burn Podcast by Ben Newman
Join Ben Newman, highly regarded Performance Coach, International Keynote Speaker and 2x WSJ Best-Seller, as he takes you into the minds of some of the highest performers in sports and business to tell their full story. The "Burn" is something we all have, but rarely do people uncover and connect to it. Ben helps people from all walks of life reach their true maximum potential.
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The Burn Podcast by Ben Newman
Turning Darkness into Light | The Rescue Mission Behind Helping Captives
In this episode of The Burn Podcast, Ben Newman is joined by Caleb Altmeyer, Founder and CEO of Helping Captives—an anti-trafficking organization rooted in faith and based in Spokane, Washington. With over a decade of ministry and non-profit leadership, Caleb has committed his life to rescuing, restoring, and protecting women and children affected by sex trafficking.
Caleb shares the powerful story of transforming a former strip club into a rescue facility—a bold and symbolic move that reflects the mission of Helping Captives: turning places of exploitation into sanctuaries of hope. He also opens up about how being fully present in YOUR children’s lives is one of the strongest ways to prevent trafficking, and why knowing who YOUR kids are talking to could make all the difference.
Caleb’s story is one of redemption, resilience, and relentless purpose. If you’re ready to hear what it means to lead with conviction and fight for those who can’t fight for themselves—this episode is for YOU.
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Welcome back to another episode of the Burn. I am Ben Newman and you know how we do this every single week we're going to bring you a story of an athlete, an entertainer, a celebrity, an entrepreneur, somebody who shows and has proven that why and purpose is not enough. There's this underlying burn that ignites your why and purpose and causes you to show up on the days you don't feel like it and especially after you win. Today's very special guest, with a very special story, with a very powerful purpose, is Caleb Altmyer. And before I bring Caleb on, I want to give a big shout out to our dear friend, eric Rock, who, without Eric, we wouldn't be on this Zoom screen, I wouldn't have been able to contribute and to help with the mission that Caleb is serving every single day and I wouldn't be aware of his powerful story. So this burn episode is probably long overdue, but certainly excited to bring to you the story, the mission and the purpose of Caleb Altmyer and helping captives. Caleb, welcome, finally, to the burn.
Speaker 2:What's up, brother? Happy to be here, man.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's great to see you always, and I want to start by just diving right into it. We're living in a world today where there's just far too many people who have a belief in whatever it is that they're doing right their sales career, it could be their involvement in sports or business, whatever it might be a charity and they have a passion. They say they have a belief, but then there's really not much action to prove that they actually believe in a high level. You are one of the most relentless believe in at a high level. You are one of the most relentless, passionate individuals that I've met, because when you talk about helping captives and before we even get to helping captives, I really want to go back 15 years to where your serving really started. You have been a man of relentless action to serve and make a difference for individuals who are in tough situations where they can't help themselves. Where did the burn come from to do that?
Speaker 2:Man? That's a great question. So I think I think you can always find little burns, like like, for instance, with this particular project I'm working on now. I find I have this girl's name in my alarm clock, right, this was a trafficking victim that died because we didn't have the 24 hour open access that we are building right now, right, so you find the little burns, but I think the big burn for me, bro, is I grew up in a really awesome Christian home with a mom that's a quadriplegic, and so I was raised by somebody in a wheelchair that was never a victim and so her whole, my whole child she she was a head cheerleader married my dad.
Speaker 2:Then, five months after they got married, they got a horrible car accident and they're still together. But I was raised literally by this awesome father that ran a homeless shelter and then a mom that was in a wheelchair, so that my childhood was great. But in high school I got really angry with God, like really angry because my mom can't walk and, um, I dropped out of school, sold pot literally, was high for like three or four years straight, Um, and it was almost like my life just got. Uh, it was almost like my life just got. It was almost like the devil just took my calling away from me, like turned me into the most unrelentless, most hot, smoky kid you could ever meet right.
Speaker 2:And so at 18 years old, right after I turned 18, I was blessed because I actually had a dream where God came and spoke to me and he actually called me into ministry. And so that's where that burn comes from is because I know that I'm called to something bigger and something greater, and I never want to go back to that kid that was unrelentless and didn't have a calling and didn't have any passion. And so I think my ultimate burn comes from just not wanting to be up in heaven at the end of my life and looking back down on earth and saying, man, I had 60 years more to to crush it and I didn't do anything with my life. And so when you ask what, like the deep, deep burn is man, it's just wanting to be obedient to the call of God in my life. That's. That's ultimately what it boils down to no-transcript.
Speaker 1:And you know, tim Tebow is there and he's speaking and you're like man, I got to go see Tebow and I got to talk to him, see Tebow and I got to talk to him. But it's just, it's this, this passion and enthusiasm that I think people are attracted to because of how much you believe in what you do. I want to ask you a question framed differently than maybe how people have asked it, cause you, you know, with me I'm always direct and to the point. You're now dealing with something from you know charities that you started, whether it was helping people with food and homeless and things of that nature. Now, fast forwarding today, where you have purchased a former strip club, the Deja Vu Strip Club, and you've now turned it into the headquarters for helping captives to stop human trafficking.
Speaker 1:This is not easy to talk about. These are things that, as much as there's a need for it, it's almost like to me I'll use the word despicable. It's almost despicable that people want to hide from talking about, like it's not easy to talk about, but it's there and it's real and it's a major problem. How important has it been for you to just serve with passion around something that is so hard to talk about, because I can't even imagine the number of people who give you all kinds of excuses. Why not to talk about it rather than to meet it head on, the way that you do Speak, to speak to that problem, because I think part of it is we need people to become more comfortable talking about something that's uncomfortable, because it's a serious problem, but I think I think it's just an uncomfortable conversation for people to have because, at the end of the day, one out of three girls is sexually abused by the time they're 18.
Speaker 2:And one out of five boys is sexually abused by the time they're 18. And when I really sit there and think about why does this happen, it takes me back. I think trafficking really starts in the junior high hallway, ben. I think it starts when you are a young guy and you're going into junior high and everything in culture is telling you that the most important like you're, you're um, you're going to be popular based on your body count, and then everything in life is trying to get you addicted to porn and trying to get you to almost look at women as objects instead of human beings. And then these young girls, they're going to junior high and it's like culture screaming at them that the most important part of them is their body and what they can give a man sexually. And I think so. I think it low key kind of impacts. The reason there is trafficking is because there's people that are willing to pay for sex and that when our culture kind of is just inundated with it, and so it, it. It always dives into a deeper conversation and I don't think a lot of people want to dive into that deeper conversation and I think that's why sometimes people are just like I don't know, or it's just, or or it's so gross and it's so dark and it brings up so many, um emotions that they just don't want to go there. Right, and when one out of three women is abused, by the time they're they're 18, they most of us know somebody that's been abused, and so I think it just brings up that emotion, um. So that's where I think most people just don't, don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2:And then for me, I, while I was running those charities, I had somebody really near and dear to my life come and share her story with us and share her story with my father, and she was my neighbor bro. She was trafficked from the time she was six by her family and so when she was years old, she comes and meets with my father and me and that really impacted me. You know my like I said, my mom's in a wheelchair, so you'd always sit on her lap, like you'd sit on her lap and you'd cruise around town on the wheelchair. This girl was the first girl that would come over to her house and kind of watch us and I'd sit behind her and actually like comb her hair. And I've never, I never did that with my mom, right. The only time I was behind somebody was when I was wrestling my father and he didn't smell nearly as good as her, right, so, uh, so I actually she was like the first crush I had. So if you could imagine finding out like the first crush that you ever had was being raped and abused the whole time and you didn't know about it. It really impacted our family.
Speaker 2:And then my father's my hero, like he's, he's my hero, man. And and I went back to my organization and was just talking about what I had just heard from from my neighbor and and I had a staff member start crying and she told me her story and that she had also been sold and abused and her dad worked at a prison and sold her to his prison guard buddies. And my dad's a boxer I see the boxing gloves behind you and and he rides a Harley and he's kind of. You know he's a man's man. He has to be to run a run a, a shelter for the street and, um, every time he'd come into the office she'd always walk into the back room and I could never understand why. And then she finally started opening up. She was like just your dad reminds me of the work at a prison and I, I get I'm still getting triggered. She's an adult.
Speaker 2:And so now I've got two people that I deeply care about and somebody that's scared of my hero, right Like she's scared of him, and I remember after about a month she realized he was safe and it took her like 10 to 15 minutes just to walk 10 or 15 feet just to give my dad a hug and she was shaking and trembling in fear because she'd never had like a father's hug before she was in her mid-20s. And when I saw that, that's when I decided like I need to do something to help, like there's too many people walking around with this trauma and they might even be high functioning but they need help. And so I think when you have someone that was your, you know what I mean. It became really dear to my heart, because now I got somebody I really care about and watching her go through her trauma Her brother was murdered Like all this stuff starts making sense. That's another person that you've been working with for a long time and she's scared of your dad, like that's. That's what got me into it, are there?
Speaker 1:are there preventive steps? Are there things that you've learned to identify because it becomes so common that that the are scared, they're scared to come forward, they're scared to talk? Is there anything that we can do as not only supporters of helping captives, but really I hope, especially with this podcast and the support through the event and you know Eric's event the Coeur d'Alene Summit that's coming up and just the voice and the platform that you're speaking and you're sharing, what steps can you share with us to educate us on what to look for or how to help or questions to ask to prevent these things before they get to the point that they get to, oftentimes, where it's just tragic?
Speaker 2:That's a great question, man, and we actually put about half of our attention into prevention, education, training now, because it is easier to train a family and train a kid on signs to look for and how not to be trafficked than it is to help somebody that's just been raped five to ten times a day. And so the biggest thing, brother, for you as a father is you just need to be in your, in your kids lives. That is the number one thing. When I interviewed some of these guys that were traffickers, the number one thing they look for is they're looking for for young girls that don't have a healthy home and don't have a dad in their life. Like that was one of the main questions. I think the other thing is just knowing that you know you're going to, if you, if there's kids that, um, you know are all of a sudden they don't have any money, and then all of a sudden they're coming to school and they got new Jordans, they got new iPhones, they got all this new stuff, and then they're telling their friends like they're getting it by going out on dates. Or you see some young girl hanging out with some older guy and it just doesn't make sense, right, like, why is a 14 year old hanging out with a 25 year old? Like there's no reason for that to be happening? Like when you start seeing some of those things and we have an entire training uh, that's an hour long on just grooming and signs to look for on our website. So you can definitely go through that, um.
Speaker 2:But I think the biggest thing that I will will tell you is grooming. There's lots of different ways that they do it, but there's usually a few things that they're always looking for, and the first thing is they're always trying to build trust, and then they try to isolate. And then, once they isolate, they try to numb that person into just the lifestyle of sex, and so those are the three things. And so you have to know who your kids are talking to. I think 80% or more of all grooming happens online now, so knowing who your kids are talking to is the most important thing. You're their parent. You can know who they're talking to on their phone. There's this app called the Bark app, which is an incredible app, so you can see who your kids are talking to and just know a lot of these guys.
Speaker 2:I was with a detective one time and he was showing me on snapchat how he made a fake identity and he just made it look like he was a 16 year old kid that played baseball, and he added a bunch of other 16 year old guys that were playing baseball and then, all of a sudden, he starts adding these girls and the girls are like, well, this guy's cute, he's got a six-pack and he's friends with all my friends, right? So they're adding them on Snapchat, but they have their notifications on, and if you're on Snapchat, you can see where all your friends are if you have your notifications on. So if someone adds her, he can see where she's at, when she's getting out of school, what part of the house she lives in. All of that is to make sure that we're in our daughter's lives and that we're spending time with them and that we're we're actually actively, actively engaging with them. You know what I mean. Like that's the number one thing, and just to know that.
Speaker 1:And if I, if I could just share it. It's one of the things that that I with our daughter Kennedy, I mean I, I consistently I want her to know how much we love her, how much we care about her. She never doubts it, she never has to go anywhere to feel love. And even with our son, right, I mean we want Isaac to know the same. And I think there's parents and it's sad that they're moving so fast these days caught up in the wrong things, that we're not slowing down to let our children know that they're protected and they're loved and that they're heard. I mean, some of those things are easy, right, but we make them complex because we just accept that the world is moving fast and those are simple things we can do as parents, correct?
Speaker 2:100%, and that's what I would say is the number one thing, right? So if your kids are wanting to get love and wanting to get attention, um, and it's not coming from you and they don't know what that, that real love and attention, is, they're going to be seeking it out. And you have to understand there's actual people out there that are like combing through Instagram and combing through Facebook and trying to find girls that are wanting attention so they can exploit them, like that's literally what they do, um, and so I mean even for me, like my good friend, she was 13,. Her parents got a divorce and, uh, her dad was just drinking and smoking pot and not paying attention to her and they were. They moved to a motel in the mid mid meantime and she was outside the motel at the time and there was a 30 some year old trafficker just hanging out she's 13. And he lets her think he cares about her and loves her and takes her out and gives her food, and then all of a sudden says, hey, you know, builds trust with her.
Speaker 2:Then all of a sudden starts to isolate. Hey, you don't, your dad doesn't really care about you, he's not giving you attention. I'll be there for you. I love you, I care about you, I'll be there for you, I love you, I care about you. And the next thing he's saying, like, hey, why don't you just come move in with me? I have a beautiful house down in LA, she's 13. She's like, okay, yeah, this, you're taking better care of me than my dad is.
Speaker 2:Next thing, you know, she's hopping in a car with them. They get to bend Oregon. Now he's telling her, like yeah, I am going to take care of you, um, and I am going to buy you clothes, but it's not going to be clothes that you want, and I am going to take care of you, but you're going to pay me back by being on the street. And anytime she tries to leave, he beats her and puts her in ice baths, takes her to, you know, gets his name tattooed on her, so everybody else knows that she's his property. And all of that could have been avoided if her dad was just paying attention to her and was in her life, that she was spending time with this guy. You know what I'm saying. So that's why I say the most important thing is family. And we've just. You know, it's great to be focused on finances and focus on grinding and focusing on taking your mountain and getting to the top, but if you're doing it at the expense of your family, like we need to, we need to figure that out.
Speaker 1:See, and these are the reasons why I love how you go about things so loudly, not quietly and I'd love to finish because I think it was such a courageous, powerful, loud action step and I mentioned it earlier but you went and literally bought the former strip club and turned it into your headquarters. I mean, you talk about a loud statement like we are shutting down, shutting you down. We are here and this is not going to happen in our city. What was that like for you? What was that experience like? How did you come about that decision? Because, once again, that's that relentless loud voice in an uncomfortable issue that I love, that you attack with and I admire, and I think it's just so needed for these types of issues.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you know how, like in the story of David, he first killed a bear and then he killed a lion. So when Goliath showed up, it wasn't a big deal to him. Like I had already done crazy stuff, like I'd already taken a schoolhouse and turned it into our school and turned it into a big safe house. We've already taken other facilities and done some stuff with it. So when we were looking for a headquarters that could be open 24 seven, I need something that was on a bus line, didn't have a lot of windows, it's kind of a protected facility. Honestly, I was thinking about just building something, but I wanted to have it in the in the heart of our city. And, uh, the strip club had people have been praying over it for a long time, cause this was also a place of, like, people getting addicted, lots of others, lots of stories, right, especially after buying it. I've had so many people come and talk to me and tell me the craziest stories that went through that club for 40 years. Um, but when it popped up and it was available, to be honest with you, I just kind of pushed it off, like somebody sent it to me and I just I didn't even think about it. I was just kind of like, yeah, no, I'll pass, like it didn't, didn't click. And then I was sitting there hanging out with my wife and like 20 minutes after they sent it to me, it just hit me like over the head. I'm like, wait a second. Maybe, god, you're crazy enough to turn a building that was used for objectifying women and use it to actually bring freedom to women coming out of addiction and abuse. Hit the guy up and said, hey, I'm interested in looking at it, if something, if somebody was already wanting to buy it, cause there was other people that wanted to purchase and reopen the club. And I said, hey, if something falls through, let me know. And, and and. It was just the perfect square footage is the perfect location. It was everything that we were looking for. Plus, I think the storyline was just what God wanted to do. You know what I mean. And I felt that deeply. And there was um.
Speaker 2:So what we did was the first night that we purchased it, I actually called all the men in the city together and we did a men's revival night and we actually brought sledgehammers and we ripped the stages out and 30 guys gave their life to Jesus that night, and it was a powerful night, and and the reason we did it, brother, is Spokane's actually the city that founded father's day and so the men in our community were like, we don't want to just be. This was our gentlemen's club, this was our playhouse, this was our thing that we did. We were like, hey, if you want to make money, come, you know, dance for us and take your clothes off. Right. So now we're going. Hey, we want to be known for protecting and healing our women, not just, not just telling them if they want a good, real attention, they need to take their clothes off. So it starts with us.
Speaker 2:You know, I wasn't always a Christian.
Speaker 2:I had a crazy past. You know what I mean. So it's it's just being honest about things in my own life and things in our culture that just need to shift, because this is a message that we're sending to. What message are we sending to young people in our community? You know, what message are we sending to our women? What message are we sending to our moms and our wives? We want to have a different message, and so that's why I went for it, and so right now, yeah, we just finished the demo and so we're going to continue pushing forward, continue raising money and turn that thing into our headquarters.
Speaker 2:What's nice is that we're able to help survivors. Right now we have facilities and we have safe houses, but when we open this, this facility up, it's going to allow us to have outpatient work with kids and it's also probably going to allow us to double the amount of people that we're able to help. So it's a big deal. And then I think it's funny you were talking about Tim, like somebody just believed in me enough to send me to Puerto Rico, knowing that they're just in faith that I was going to meet Tim, because you know, tim's whole family has been doing ministry for a long time and they're now getting into kind of this fight to fight human trafficking. And so what's funny is we're actually going to launch the Freedom Center on October 14th, 26. And guess who's coming out to launch it with me and speak tim?
Speaker 2:yeah, it's amazing that all happened because of faith and showing up to your event, and that would never happen if you didn't have faith and you weren't obedient and you didn't go from. Sir, can I please help you with your taxes to give me your money, sucker like, that's what like that's so, that's that's.
Speaker 2:You've changed so much, bro. And if any of you guys like crack a joke but like if you've seen his picture before and you see his picture now, even ben is involved and that's why I said he went from sir, can I help you with your taxes? To hey, give me your money, sucker. Uh. But that went through a lot of you just being obedient and you being misunderstood and you fighting the good fight. And if you wouldn't have done that, bro, there's no way that I would have been in a room with Tim Tebow with, like what you know what I mean, you do your summits specifically not to have hundreds of thousands of people there. You do it Network. And if it wasn't, and that, you nailed it.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's that's the purpose of it. That's why, when people see our lineups and they say, why aren't there thousands of people here? I don't want thousands of people.
Speaker 1:You could totally get thousands of people. But it's not your mission, no, it's. I want what you just explained happened with you and Tim Tebow to happen, with people to make a difference in the world. And that doesn't happen by the thousands because you're not going to have a chance to meet him. It happens with the right environment, set up the right way, and I just I encourage everybody listening.
Speaker 1:A couple of things here. Number one we're going to make it very, very easy for you to join our family in the support of Caleb and Helping Captives and we're going to make it very easy for you to find the website. We're literally going to put it right in the call notes and you're going to click and you're going to understand what are the action steps that you can take, even if it's awareness and messaging, to join Caleb in his voice. That is better than a silent voice. If you're able to financially make an impact, the way that our family continues to do for helping captives and we will continue to do, please help financially. But his voice is too loud, his voice is too significant and it's too powerful, with all of the individuals like myself, the Eric Rocks, everyone else supporting him, to allow this issue to carry on any further. And it can't be quiet. It has to be loud, and that's why, if you want to come to Coeur d'Alene, idaho, to the Coeur d'Alene Summit that Eric Rock is throwing, partnering with Helping Captives, that's one of the main charities that will be supported through that event. Tim Tebow will also be there, whether it's coming and having the opportunity to meet Emmett Smith, jesse Itzler, inky Johnson, caleb Down, where we're going to be supporting helping captives at our boot camp in Texas. We're going to leave you links. If the dates don't work for Coeur d'Alene, come see us in Texas. If you want to come to both, come to both.
Speaker 1:But we want you to realize that we have a choice in this world that we're in to take issues that are uncomfortable and to make the most important thing, the most important thing, and that's protecting these men and protecting these women who are victims of human trafficking, and I just encourage you to become loud with your voice when things are important. I'd love to turn it over to you, caleb, to uh, to finish our time together, because I know how passionate you are. I'm gonna sign off now and then turn it over to you, caleb, to finish our time together, because I know how passionate you are. I'm going to sign off now and then turn it over to you and let you drop the mic, because I think it's important for people to understand your heart and for you to directly ask for their help. And so just thank you for joining us for the Burn.
Speaker 1:You know, this isn't the first time we've talked about issues like this. This isn't the first time we've talked about controversial issues. We're not here to go about life quietly. We're here to make noise and to take action, and that's why I love and support guys like Caleb Altmyer. So, caleb, thank you for finally joining us on the burn. I don't do this with many people, but you get the mic. You get to finish the episode. I turn it over to you, my friend.
Speaker 2:All right, sounds good. Thank you guys, so much for listening. Here's the deal For me personally. You're always looking for heroes, and I said that my main hero is my father, but my ultimate hero in life is Jesus. And at the end of the day, when I look at the life of Jesus, it was very unique. You're the son of God and you were going to have one message to tell the world. You probably think about it over and over and over and over.
Speaker 2:Right, he's got 30 years before he launches his message to his community. So I think it's interesting when it's his time to tell everybody. He goes and he gets tempted. He goes and grabs his disciples and he walks back to Nazareth. This is the city that he grew up in. It's his first message. He's going to launch it to the community and he goes into the temple and he says this he opens up of all verses, he opens up to Isaiah and he says the spirit of God is on me. He's anointed me to preach good news to the poor, to bind up the brokenhearted and to set captives free. That's what Jesus' whole ministry is about. That's what being a Christian is about. That's what our nation is about, and I'm gonna keep doing that, and if that means that I gotta be like ben and I gotta go do crazy workouts to be able to get in front of you and I gotta do so many jumping jacks that my calves have biceps like ben, I'll do whatever it takes.
Speaker 2:But we have got to make a difference. We have got to send a different message to our kids. We have got to send a different message to our kids. We've got to send a different message to our daughters, and it can't just be that we know you're going through hell but we're going to turn our head. It's got to be that we are invested, we're willing to change and we're going to open up a facility that is going to send a message to our entire country that we want to be about helping heal our daughters and our moms and our sisters and not just objectifying them.
Speaker 2:That has got to change. We've got to tear down some strongholds. We've got to change some things in our own life. We've got to stop being addicted to pornography. We've got a lot of stuff that we need to change as people, individually and as a country, but I honestly think it starts with our kids and it starts with doing something that's right and not what's easy, and this is what we're going to be doing, and if you want to participate in that, I welcome you. And if you want to come down to texas and see me try and do ben's uh workout unbroken, uh, I'm gonna be ready to rock and roll we are, so he just tipped it off the unrequired workout.
Speaker 1:We will have some fun pushing caleb to his limits physically to raise money for helping captains.
Speaker 2:Yeah so salute you, brother, love you, looking forward to seeing you in court of lane and, uh, dude, honestly, like I'm just gonna keep it 100 like when I, before I met you, I had a dream of like just going to the next level and kind of having a kind of having a facility that would help these ladies.
Speaker 2:And, and since meeting you and since being coached, and since being just we've, we have actually gone from a vision of one million dollars to a vision of 10 million dollars and being the ultimate organization in in the nation when it comes to recovery, to take people from heroin and meth all the way to a job and not just doing emergency care. That's where it starts. But we have a dream and a vision now to literally go from the emergency care all the way to long-term care, all the way to transitional living in a job, and we're going for it hard, bro, and I just want to thank you for calling me up and seeing something in me that I didn't even see in myself, and I think that's what you do for all of us and that's why we love and appreciate you so much, and it's awesome to have somebody that that drives you and believes in you, and that's what you're. Not just a motivational speaker, brother, you're a coach.
Speaker 1:And I'm just very thankful that you're in my life and that you're coaching us and I can't wait to see you. Oh, god bless you, brother. I appreciate you and I appreciate your mission and your voice and your courage and your passion and the powerful way you show up in the world. So it goes both ways. Everybody listening share this episode. Caleb, thank you for joining us. Make sure to hit that link. Learn more about helping captives. Do not have a silent voice. Join us in having a voice to make a difference. We'll see you next week for the burn.
